To kick off the new year, I had a chat with podcast fave, Michael e. Stern, about how to take action toward a goal and learn something new as a way out of a slump.

The type of goal he is talking about is not the typical goal you think of for a new year. His goals are focused on improving his skills and in our chat he kept emphasizing the practice required to work toward those goals -- and the love of learning that continues to propel him forward, even after 41 years as a photographer and creative solopreneur.

So listen here (or below) and learn.

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